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Title: 2011 Tour
Post by: wrea398 on November 27, 2010, 09:05PM
I just read the latest blog on the CW website.  Here is what I found.

"Hi Everyone! Just wanted to send one last blog before the Holidays and wish you all a very Happy Thanksgiving coming up. As you all know, the Australian Tour just done is our last tour with the lovely Lynn. She has a lovely message at www.celticwoman.com which I'm sure you have all seen. Her elegance, purity of voice and fun loving personality will be missed by everyone and I wish her the very best of everything in the future. You never know, she might come out and visit us on tour! "   

  It would be great if she made some appearences.


Title: Re: 2011 Tour
Post by: Emily! on November 27, 2010, 09:20PM
That was Mairead's latest blog.


Title: Re: 2011 Tour
Post by: Jason on November 28, 2010, 12:50AM
The location of this thread (Lynn News) and its title made me think we were gonna be getting a Lynn solo tour.

I was so excited! :-\


Title: Re: 2011 Tour
Post by: TheWhite~Rose on November 28, 2010, 10:06AM
The location of this thread (Lynn News) and its title made me think we were gonna be getting a Lynn solo tour.

I was so excited! :-\
I thought so too at first, but you never know; maybe one day. ;)


Title: Re: 2011 Tour
Post by: wrea398 on November 28, 2010, 01:08PM
Sorry to confuse. It was about Lynn so I found it fitting to place it in Lynns section.  Usually people dont say things like that unless they know something we don't. Hope she visits from time to time.


Title: Re: 2011 Tour
Post by: Tiffany Gray on December 06, 2010, 11:26AM
OMG that would be awesome if she does make an appearance!!!  ;D


Title: Re: 2011 Tour
Post by: hopfrog5557 on January 31, 2011, 10:11PM
So, what's the prevailing wisdom? Was Lynn just tired of the traveling? What are the theories as to why she left CW?


Title: Re: 2011 Tour
Post by: OldFatGuy on January 31, 2011, 10:32PM
So, what's the prevailing wisdom? Was Lynn just tired of the traveling? What are the theories as to why she left CW?
This topic has been covered very extensively elsewhere - http://www.celticwomanforum.com/index.php?topic=14676.0 (http://www.celticwomanforum.com/index.php?topic=14676.0). As for the "prevailing wisdom" - in her message announcing her departure, Lynn said, "I have grown to miss Ireland and my life there more and more, so I’ve decided to take my leave while the going is good."  I don't understand why we can never just take their word for it. There's no mystery. And we're not going to endure more speculation about it.


Title: Re: 2011 Tour
Post by: hopfrog5557 on February 01, 2011, 05:41PM
Consider me chastised. Please send me the recipe for the Kool-Aid. All of these independent thoughts are quite inconvenient.


Title: Re: 2011 Tour
Post by: IloveyouSarahBurke!! <3 on February 02, 2011, 10:31AM
How amazing would that be if she made a gues appearance?!
Although, I do have to say again, good for her for knowing that she needed a break... :)


Title: Re: 2011 Tour
Post by: lisaholic nr1 on February 03, 2011, 03:39AM
How amazing would that be if she made a gues appearance?!

yes :D


Title: Re: 2011 Tour
Post by: wrea398 on February 05, 2011, 03:24PM
  Not to tick off the moderator or administrator, but I have read many commemnts outside of this site that suggested the other girls who left had other reasons for leaving and they were not so good, mentioning staff,  producers and personal feelings towards decisions within.   Not to speculate but IMHO the websites give you "only what you need to hear". If anyone left CW for personal reasons (other than what was posted) we will never know. They surely will not post things like  "This person had ill feelings and decided to leave" or "we fired her", etc.   Not good for publicity. 

  Everything I am saying is based on real world scenarios ( I've been in this business) and views of what could happen in this industry, but I am not saying any of it actually happened.  I hope Lynn did what she did for the right reasons "for her" and had the only say in here decision.    OK Moderator and ADMIN,  I'm ready for my lashing....


Title: Re: 2011 Tour
Post by: hesprit on February 05, 2011, 03:43PM
wrea398,

Well, I am neither an administrator nor a moderator, but I'll offer my opinion as a response.

I have also seen many of those comments posted on other sites.  If you actually look at them carefully, there is one thing very important that you'll notice ... they are all being posted by people who are claiming to know something that nobody else knows, and yet in not one single case has any proof been offered! 

I have never seen, nor heard, an actual statement directly from ANY of the ladies who have moved on from CW which states anything like these rumors which some people seem to want to spread.  I have, on the other hand, seen a number of very friendly and encouraging comments by those former CW members about their time with the group and the people involved.

There are several members of this forum who have actually developed a personal relationship with various members of Celtic Woman, both past and present.  Some deal with them on a semi-professional level, some have developed friendships, some both.  In many cases, these are relationships which can be (and have been) verified, so they are not just phonies.  These are the people i would trust to know about something like this.

You have to remember that there will ALWAYS be people who want to pretend to be more important than they actually are.  Many times, if they can't find any other way to do so, people will try to create some type of controversy (even where it does not actually exist) because if they seem to know what nobody else does, they must "matter."  I am not saying that this is the case, as I do not know any of the people who are responsible for these rumors, but I am saying that they ARE exactly that ... rumors, and rumors with no proof I've seen.  When someone provides proof, and I mean actual, verifiable proof, then I will give these a second thought.  Until then, they don't deserve a second thought, and I choose not to.


Title: Re: 2011 Tour
Post by: OldFatGuy on February 05, 2011, 04:57PM
I'm not going to lash anyone. I keep hoping we can stop having this discussion, but I guess that isn't gonna happen. But I will point out a couple of things.

I don't know anything about the management of CW. Contrary to anything you may have seen elsewhere, I'm not involved with them in any way and don't want to be. But if they were the heartless slave drivers they've been made out to be, they wouldn't have lasted this long. It's been said that the performers are overworked and underpaid, but several of them are now in their seventh year with CW. Don't you think Máiréad could have landed a better gig if she were that mistreated?

The performers - past and present - are friends. They post messages of friendship and encouragement to each other on Twitter and Facebook. I'm so glad they've taken to the social networking sites with such vigor, because it gives us all a chance to view the real people behind the makeup and the music. They are good people who love their job - and each other.

We live in a tabloid society. Maybe the CW web site tells you "only what you need to hear".  What else would they tell you?  "So-and-so was a pain, so we canned him/her"??  I'm painfully familiar with some of the authors of opposing viewpoints. As Peter indicated, they are little people trying very hard to look and sound important. In truth, they are so unimportant and insignificant that CW hasn't even bothered to reply to their accusations.  The entertainment business has spawned a huge cottage industry - the tabloid press, which considers it their mandate to dig up and report every bit of slander and dirt they can unearth.  They've been looking for almost seven years, yet not one legitimate source has ever uncovered any evidence to support the rumors of discord.  Quite the opposite, in fact.  Every reporter who gets close to any of the performers comes away amazed (and refreshed) at how well they all get along.  If there were anything there, we'd have heard about it by now - from a far more reliable source than some individual's blog or Facebook page.


Title: Re: 2011 Tour
Post by: cool2it on February 05, 2011, 05:24PM
  AMEN, Rich!!!  Some of the other people on those forums and blogs just want soooo very much to be an authority--on SOMETHING!! They just aren't qualified OR capable of accomplishing that feat-- nor will they ever!   I'll believe what the girls say any day or any time over those " Want-to be-big"  guesses!


Title: Re: 2011 Tour
Post by: wrea398 on February 05, 2011, 08:25PM
Agreed. Too many things on the internet...true or false?  Who cares...  People make changes and move on.  I think Lynn is 28 years old now.  Many women her age would be considering marriage, children etc.  She has been on stage for MANY years with not much else in her life and I can only imagine her desire to go back home for a long break.  We have all changed jobs a few times in our lives and she is no different. I wish her the best of luck. 


Title: Re: 2011 Tour
Post by: Cash on February 06, 2011, 07:44AM
We need to come up with a plan to get her back, even if its not with CW. Just to get her performing in the USA, even if its just a few shows. I am still hoping for a collaberation of former members to do a dvd and / or a BRIEF 24 city 6 week USA tour. Maybe call it Celt-X-Woman  :D


Title: Re: 2011 Tour
Post by: hopfrog5557 on February 14, 2011, 07:23AM
Look, I was not suggesting something sinister. I merely have questions why a 28 year old woman who, after years of being part of a chorus that was named above her on the marquee if she was named at all, would give up a gig where she was named and making a huge name for herself because she's homesick.

I'm not saying that her stated reasons are not valid or truthful, but I do have questions. To date, the only way I have found to get answers is to ask questions.

I have never in my life seen a topic that could not be augmented by a rational discussion.


Title: Re: 2011 Tour
Post by: 07-sara on February 14, 2011, 09:40AM
Unless you can ask her yourself then you should prolly just take the reason for why she left as it is.



Title: Re: 2011 Tour
Post by: The Quiet Man on February 14, 2011, 11:45AM
I have to agree with Rich that this act wouldn't be entering its seventh year if the management were in fact heartless slave-drivers.  The fact is we don't know what goes on behind the scenes and we really shouldn't be digging into it, because nothing good can come of that.  That said, I tend to accept people's reasons for going, but with a grain of salt.  As someone who practiced labor and employment law for four years, I have to say that not everyone who leaves a situation is entirely forthcoming with the reasons.  There may be non-disclosure agreements, there may be personal reasons, the person may just be savvy enough not to bad-mouth a former boss.  Lynn gave the reason she gave, and even if you have questions, it's probably all you are going to get unless you question her yourself, which I don't recommend. 

That said, I can see having questions or being unhappy with the recent personnel changes.  Losing not one but two beloved performers in a year is tough to swallow, whatever the reason.  Meav and Orlagh at least had some space between them.  We may all dream about a reunion concert, or about this one or that one returning one day, but I submit the former is unlikely and the latter less so.  Deirdre is out of  the group since 2005, Hayley's out of there four years, Meav's out of there almost four years, Orlagh two, and although none of them have said they will never return in so many words,  if it was going to happen I submit it would have by now.  Hate to say it, but I'm not sure the statement that Lynn might come visit on tour was a helpful one, as it might raise false hopes.  I think everyone who leaves CW makes a clean break and moves on, Orlagh and Meav don't even talk to their former bandmates (by their own admission).  It might take time for that to sink in, but I say give it that time.   


Title: Re: 2011 Tour
Post by: bot1tle on February 14, 2011, 04:03PM
Does anyone know someone in Las Vegas that could put a show together with all the ex members (if it could happen, Vegas would be best  bet).....or some of them.... what a show... THE CELTIC LADIES......i could see Lynnypoo headlining by herself in Vegas..... she would wow them... OR Lynn and Alex together......


Title: Re: 2011 Tour
Post by: SusanZ on February 14, 2011, 06:12PM
Guys, as Rich pointed out in a previous post in this thread, we keep hoping this discussion about Lynn's "real" reasons for leaving CW will end.

Lynn stated her reason for leaving. Accept it. Speculating will not bring her back. Believe it or not, performers DO move on to other projects because they want to try something different or choose a different fork in the road. I say we wish Lynn well as she travels down a new path and not try to play detective.

Zee


Title: Re: 2011 Tour
Post by: hopfrog5557 on February 14, 2011, 06:40PM
I suppose I'm just bitter because, like a dope, I didn't discover CW until after I had watched the SFTH DVD and found out both Alex and Lynn had left the group. I screwed up my chance to see that group of four perform live together. My timing stinks.

One thing that I am fairly sure of is that there's very little if any animosity between the ladies. Alex sent a Tweet to Mairead wishing her and CW luck before they kicked off the tour. Lynn has always been very complimentary of the ladies that she worked with.


Title: Re: 2011 Tour
Post by: The Quiet Man on February 15, 2011, 11:34AM
Not looking to play detective, in fact I think we SHOULDN'T dig into what goes on behind the scenes, nothing good can come of that.  That said, sometimes it isn't easy to "just move on" when something changes.  Lynn is a wonderful person and it's tough to say goodbye, especially when it was kind of sudden - unfortunately CW doesn't tend to give much advance warning when a member is leaving (this is not a criticism, just a statement of fact).  I'm sure we all wish Lynn well, but I hope it's ok to say she is missed.


Title: Re: 2011 Tour
Post by: SusanZ on February 15, 2011, 03:46PM
I'm sure we all wish Lynn well, but I hope it's ok to say she is missed.

It's more than okay to say she is missed . Lynn will always hold a very special place in all our hearts for the person she is and for what she brought to Celtic Woman.

Zee


Title: Re: 2011 Tour
Post by: hopfrog5557 on February 15, 2011, 04:20PM
To support my theory that the girls getting along was not the problem, Orlagh just posted a photo of herself with Lynn and Alex after one of her concerts on her Facebook page. They did not look uncomfortable or like they were not getting along.