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Title: CW Roster: Founding, Ambassadorial, and Standing Representatives Post by: Parker Gabriel on March 21, 2014, 04:46PM Herein proposed is a breakdown of the roster between Founding, Ambassadorial, and Standing Representatives of the Celtic Woman. To wit: Alex Sharpe Standing. Chloë Agnew Founding, Ambassadorial. Deirdre Shannon Standing. Hayley Westenra Ambassadorial. Lisa Kelly Founding, Ambassadorial. Lisa Lambe Standing. Lynn Hilary Standing. Mairéad Carlin Standing. Máiréad Nesbitt Founding, Standing. Méav Ní Mhaolchatha Founding, Ambassadorial. Órlagh Fallon Founding, Ambassadorial. Susan McFadden Standing. And in a nod to the Music Director who brought the Representatives together: David Downes Founding, Standing. Definitions are these: A Founding Representative was a Representative on the very First Journey. An Ambassadorial Representative is one who has left the main team; she may (as with Hayley) or may not (as with Chloë, Lisa Kelly, Méav, and Órlagh) have joined in a later Journey. Such Representatives are called Ambassadorial because they are always welcome to return as guests of the main team, the way Méav has done at least once. A Standing Representative, quite obviously, is a current Representative. Others are welcome to offer their own opinions on this breakdown. Title: Re: CW Roster: Founding, Ambassadorial, and Standing Representatives Post by: Kimberly AJ on March 21, 2014, 05:14PM Nice key coloring, pal! :)
Title: Re: CW Roster: Founding, Ambassadorial, and Standing Representatives Post by: Emer Dreamer on March 21, 2014, 06:29PM The only edit I would make is to give Orla Founding Status too...otherwise ....pretty accurate . 8)
Title: Re: CW Roster: Founding, Ambassadorial, and Standing Representatives Post by: MarcusWongAUS on March 21, 2014, 07:12PM I'm confused, wouldn't Alex and Deirdre be 'ambassadorial' and not 'standing'?
Title: Re: CW Roster: Founding, Ambassadorial, and Standing Representatives Post by: Parker Gabriel on March 21, 2014, 07:24PM If Alex Sharpe and Deirdre Shannon have left the main team, then they are indeed Ambassadorial Representatives, as welcome to participate as guests of the main team as any Ambassadorial Representative always is and will always remain. That raises one question: Have they left the main team? Title: Re: CW Roster: Founding, Ambassadorial, and Standing Representatives Post by: MarcusWongAUS on March 21, 2014, 07:30PM If Alex Sharpe and Deirdre Shannon have left the main team, then they are indeed Ambassadorial Representatives, as welcome to participate as guests of the main team as any Ambassadorial Representative always is and will always remain. That raises one question: Have they left the main team? I'm just confused as to what that means. I thought leaving the main team was leaving Celtic Woman - which they have both indeed done. Title: Re: CW Roster: Founding, Ambassadorial, and Standing Representatives Post by: Parker Gabriel on March 21, 2014, 07:39PM As for Órlagh Fallon being a Founding Representative, I had not believed that much to be accurate at the time I drafted the breakdown because, to the best of the knowledge I had had available to me at the time, she did not participate in the First Journey. The First Journey is defined here as having begun in March of 2005, and as having been conducted in 2005 and 2006. This “Journey,” as they all may be called, was, in other words, the “original” performance. Chloë Agnew, Lisa Kelly, and Méav Ní Mhaolchatha did, as did Máiréad Nesbitt and David Downes, and Máiréad is thus a Founding Representative, as are Chloë, Lisa K, and Méav. Though he is obviously not female, ;D David Downes has been accorded Founding status as he is, after all, the “Founding Father” of the team, as my nickname for him observes. As per the corrections of the knowledge I had had, Órla is indeed a Founding Representative as well as an Ambassadorial one. :o :-[ The breakdown has been revised to reflect these corrections. Title: Re: CW Roster: Founding, Ambassadorial, and Standing Representatives Post by: Parker Gabriel on March 21, 2014, 07:41PM And yes, leaving the main team is leaving Celtic Woman. So Alex and Deirdre are now Ambassadorial Representatives. Title: Re: CW Roster: Founding, Ambassadorial, and Standing Representatives Post by: Jim M. on March 21, 2014, 08:26PM Ms. Fallon was part of the first concert at The Helix and toured for several years.
Title: Re: CW Roster: Founding, Ambassadorial, and Standing Representatives Post by: Parker Gabriel on March 21, 2014, 11:38PM That raises the question of why Órla was not seen in the video production of the First Journey. Unless she was, and Brennus Productions failed to include her involvement in it. She is an Ambassadorial Representative now, but if she DID participate in the First Journey from the point of its send-off, then she IS a Founding Representative. Assistance is hereby requested: Did the “original” performance and tour that launched the First Journey include Órlagh Fallon or did it not? Answers are welcomed. Title: Re: CW Roster: Founding, Ambassadorial, and Standing Representatives Post by: MarcusWongAUS on March 22, 2014, 01:15AM Orla was indeed involved in the original Helix production, quite clearly too. She also participated in the subsequent tours in 2005 and 2006, and continued her involvement on the "A New Journey" recording and tour, before leaving in 2008 to focus on a solo career. Prior to that, she had been part of Celtic Woman since its inception so she is a 'Founding Representative'.
Title: Re: CW Roster: Founding, Ambassadorial, and Standing Representatives Post by: Jim M. on March 22, 2014, 08:43AM Question for Parker:
Do you NOT have or have you NOT seen the first Helix DVD? If you don't have it, you can probably find the show on Youtube. Title: Re: CW Roster: Founding, Ambassadorial, and Standing Representatives Post by: Parker Gabriel on March 24, 2014, 09:29PM I will search for it there. Thanx. Title: Re: CW Roster: Founding, Ambassadorial, and Standing Representatives Post by: Parker Gabriel on May 10, 2014, 02:12AM I have checked the video of the “original” performance and tour that launched the First Journey. Órla was seen in its video production of the First Journey; for failing to realize and/or remember that, I hereby stand corrected. And yes, Brennus Productions did include her involvement in it. As I have stated, she is an Ambassadorial Representative now, and since she participated in the First Journey from the point of its send-off, she is indeed a Founding Representative, for which status I failed to give her credit before. And for that I deeply apologize. For the assistance I received, confirming that the “original” performance and tour that launched the First Journey did indeed include Órlagh Fallon, I also give much thanx. It is truly appreciated. Title: Re: CW Roster: Founding, Ambassadorial, and Standing Representatives Post by: Parker Gabriel on October 27, 2015, 09:47PM I wish to ask other members of this forum which Representatives of the Celtic Woman who had been Standing Representatives have since become Ambassadorial Representatives. I also wish to ask whether any other Founding Representatives than Mairead Nesbit and David “Founding Father” Downes have remained Standing Representatives from the First Journey. Any assistance along these lines will be deeply appreciated, and its providers are hereby thanked in advance. Title: Re: CW Roster: Founding, Ambassadorial, and Standing Representatives Post by: ShiningBright on October 28, 2015, 03:00AM Alex, Deirdre, Lisa Lambe and Lynn are not standing anymore.
Title: Re: CW Roster: Founding, Ambassadorial, and Standing Representatives Post by: Parker Gabriel on December 16, 2015, 06:48PM Herein proposed is a revised breakdown of the roster between Founding, Ambassadorial, and Standing Representatives of the Celtic Woman, including now a new category herein introduced--that of Transitional Representatives. To wit: Alex Sharpe Ambassadorial. Chloë Agnew Founding, Ambassadorial. Deirdre Shannon Ambassadorial. Éabha McMahon Standing. Hayley Westenra Ambassadorial, Transitional. Lisa Kelly Founding, Ambassadorial. Lisa Lambe Ambassadorial. Lynn Hilary Ambassadorial. Mairéad Carlin Standing. Máiréad Nesbitt Founding, Standing. Méav Ní Mhaolchatha Founding, Ambassadorial, Standing. (She alone falls into all three of the original categories.) Órlagh Fallon Founding, Ambassadorial. Rebecca Winckworth Transitional. Susan McFadden Standing. And in a nod to the Music Director who brought the Representatives together: David Downes Founding, Standing. Definitions are these: A Founding Representative was a Representative on the very First Journey. An Ambassadorial Representative is one who has left the main team; she may (as with Hayley Westenra, see definition of Transitional Representatives following) or may not (as with Chloë Agnew, Lisa Kelly, Méav Ní Mhaolchatha, and Órlagh Fallon) have joined in a later Journey. Such Representatives are called Ambassadorial because they are always welcome to return as guests of the main team, the way Méav has done at least once. A Standing Representative, quite obviously, is a current Representative. A Transitional Representative is one who has joined the main team in a later Journey and is essentially its guest; Hayley Westenra, who joined the main team in the New Journey, and Rebecca Winckworth, who joined the main team in the Destiny Journey, both typify this category. Others are welcome to offer their own opinions on this new breakdown. Title: Re: CW Roster of Representatives Post by: Parker Gabriel on March 27, 2019, 07:43AM Of late, the Ancient Land Journey has led to the existence of a new category herein introduced--that of Trans-Generational Representatives.
They are defined thus: A Trans-Generational Representative of the Celtic Woman had grown up listening to the Founding, Ambassadorial, and Transitional Representatives, and is now also a Standing Representative herself. She is so called both because she represents the next generation of Representatives and because she is likewise continuing the tradition that the Founding Representatives began so long ago, with the First Journey. The Trans-Generational Representatives of the Celtic Woman are these: Megan Walsh, Tara McNeill, Mairéad Carlin, and Éabha McMahon. Mairéad Carlin and Éabha McMahon are already Standing Representatives, and holdovers from the previous roster; however, they too are also Trans-Generational for that last reason. Tara McNeill has succeeded Founding Representative Mairéad Nesbitt, and she and Megan Walsh are thus the most recent Trans-Generational Representatives to join the roster. Founding Representative Méav Ní Mhaolchatha has become vocal director for all the Representatives, and is thus also both Standing and Ambassadorial. It is due to her continued direct involvement that Trans-Generational Representation of the Celtic Woman is now possible. Title: Re: CW Roster: Founding, Ambassadorial, and Standing Representatives Post by: Parker Gabriel on January 26, 2024, 03:01PM Whosoever is able to identify the Standing and Ambassadorial Representatives of the Celtic Woman has my gratitude. It will be better still to note those who are also Trans-Generational Representatives.
Moreover, I have received word that “Founding Father” David Downes has himself become Ambassadorial. Can anyone confirm or refute this word that I have received? |