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Title: "Live From Slane Castle" -- NOT!
Post by: Albertan on November 09, 2008, 07:55PM
I have been enjoying my "Greatest Journey" CD which arrived the other day (WOO-HOO!!!!) and I have noticed something rather peculiar. As a "best of..." compilation the CD features the celtic women both past (Méav) and present (Alex, Lynn). Deirdre was never with CW at the times they did any of their CD or DVD recordings, so she is understandably absent from the mix. But what about Hayley?

Nowhere in the CD booklet is Hayley mentioned as performing any of the numbers. Yet the two bonus tracks ("Mo Ghile Mear" and "Spanish Lady") on the CD are listed as being "Live from Slane Castle" and HAYLEY PERFORMED IN BOTH OF THESE NUMBERS! So why is she not listed?

This prompted me to listen to these tracks very closely, and to compare them to the New Journey CD and DVD versions.

On "Spanish Lady" I could come to no conclusion, as Hayley does not have any solo lines in this number. But a close analysis of "Mo Ghile Mear" on the GJ version reveals that it is actually Chloë who is singing the lines that Hayley sang on the original NJ version. So it would seem that the producers have completely dubbed Hayley out of the alleged "Live from Slane Castle" performances. Why would they do this? To avoid having to pay royalties?

Perhaps truth in advertising considerations should prompt the producers of the GJ CD to honestly bill the last two tracks as "Live from the Editing Room"??

Gordon




Title: Re: "Live From Slane Castle" -- NOT!
Post by: Western_Rose on November 09, 2008, 08:01PM
Yeah, I don't know why they put it from Slane. Here is a "Hayleyless" version of Spanish Lady you can compare with the supposedly Live Slane one if you like http://www.orlafan.com/shared/audio/celticwomanaudio.html


Title: Re: "Live From Slane Castle" -- NOT!
Post by: Jim M. on November 09, 2008, 08:19PM
Ours is not to question why - Ours is just to go and buy!


Title: Re: "Live From Slane Castle" -- NOT!
Post by: Albertan on November 09, 2008, 09:06PM
 ;D ;D
I've been there and done that -- DVD too!!

Gordon


Title: Re: "Live From Slane Castle" -- NOT!
Post by: Western_Rose on November 11, 2008, 07:39AM
Yeah I don't really care whether its from Slane or not, cause I own ANJ, so its neat to get something new!


Title: Re: "Live From Slane Castle" -- NOT!
Post by: Mel on November 11, 2008, 08:09AM
It may have been recorded at Slane. They may have recorded 2 Mo Ghile Mears, one with and one without.  They had to nights of taping. Only way we would know is if someone who was there can verify this. This was taping, so they can do one song more than one time.

As for Hayley not being on this CD, we have discussed this in other threads. Most of these other recordings with out Hayley were recorded somewhere else, such as for Japan, when Hayley wasn't with the group.  Also Hayley most likely was only contracted for ANJ, and NOT TGJ or any future CD releases. Remember, Hayley is on a diff record label.


Title: Re: "Live From Slane Castle" -- NOT!
Post by: Kimberly AJ on November 11, 2008, 04:00PM
What about "The Dawn, The Sky And The Sun"? I like it extended.


Title: Re: "Live From Slane Castle" -- NOT!
Post by: Dan on November 11, 2008, 11:33PM
This could be a recording from a different night-I just assumed they dubbed over Hayley's bit and that was it cos the rest all sounds pretty live to me!


Title: Re: "Live From Slane Castle" -- NOT!
Post by: Western_Rose on November 16, 2008, 11:04AM
Oh we never doubted it was live, it obviously is. When Méav and Orla sing their solos there was no piano in the background of the CD version.


Title: Re: "Live From Slane Castle" -- NOT!
Post by: Starman on November 21, 2008, 05:57PM
Ours is not to question why - Ours is just to go and buy!

  LOL!!  Not Shakespeare, Jim, but close enough!   :D ;D


Title: Re: "Live From Slane Castle" -- NOT!
Post by: Albertan on November 22, 2008, 09:53PM
More like Tennyson!!
 :D :D :D

Gordon


Title: Re: "Live From Slane Castle" -- NOT!
Post by: mainopsman on November 23, 2008, 08:57AM
 I liked the second disk in the package, the interview/group history disk.   Why, you ask?  Well it has some of the best footage and one of the best interviews of Orlagh that I have ever seen.  She is totally stunning in that lovely dark green print dress.      I could sit and listen to her speak and sing all day!

         JIM                                         


Title: Re: "Live From Slane Castle" -- NOT!
Post by: Hannahlmatt on November 23, 2008, 02:49PM
I liked the second disk in the package, the interview/group history disk.   Why, you ask?  Well it has some of the best footage and one of the best interviews of Orlagh that I have ever seen.  She is totally stunning in that lovely dark green print dress.      I could sit and listen to her speak and sing all day!

         JIM                                         


There are two CD's? Or is that the interview on the DVD?


Title: Re: "Live From Slane Castle" -- NOT!
Post by: Starman on November 23, 2008, 02:59PM
I liked the second disk in the package, the interview/group history disk.   Why, you ask?  Well it has some of the best footage and one of the best interviews of Orlagh that I have ever seen.  She is totally stunning in that lovely dark green print dress.      I could sit and listen to her speak and sing all day!

         JIM                                         


     A favorite part of mine, as well. I particularly liked the part where it cuts away from the interview to the studio shot of her recording New Grange.   ;D


Title: Re: "Live From Slane Castle" -- NOT!
Post by: mainopsman on November 23, 2008, 07:20PM
My typing error I ment the second park of the disk with the interviews.  I didn't mean to get every one excited.  See what Orlagh does to me, lol.   I only hope she is one of those at the March 18th meet and greet in Baltimore.

         JIM


Title: Re: "Live From Slane Castle" -- NOT!
Post by: Hannahlmatt on November 23, 2008, 09:30PM
Thanks, I thought I missed the boat on that one!! (That shows what sleep deprivation will do to me :))


Title: Re: "Live From Slane Castle" -- NOT!
Post by: lifeismusic2009 on January 19, 2009, 09:16AM
Also, on You Raise Me Up the DVD has haley but on the cd they added an extra verse for lynn to sing and as far as i know took hayley out.


Title: Re: "Live From Slane Castle" -- NOT!
Post by: Dan on January 21, 2009, 08:43PM
Also, on You Raise Me Up the DVD has haley but on the cd they added an extra verse for lynn to sing and as far as i know took hayley out.

Hayley never recorded YRMU with the group-The Greatest Journey version is a completely new recording that features Lynn, Chloe, Mairead, Lisa, and Orlagh.


Title: Re: "Live From Slane Castle" -- NOT!
Post by: Nero Angelo on January 22, 2009, 07:49AM
Also, on You Raise Me Up the DVD has haley but on the cd they added an extra verse for lynn to sing and as far as i know took hayley out.

Hayley never recorded YRMU with the group-The Greatest Journey version is a completely new recording that features Lynn, Chloe, Mairead, Lisa, and Orlagh.

Actually, she sung it during the ANJ concert. ;)


Title: Re: "Live From Slane Castle" -- NOT!
Post by: raven_christina on February 26, 2009, 02:56PM
if you check the liner notes, David mentions the tracks we re-recorded and re-mixed.


Title: Re: "Live From Slane Castle" -- NOT!
Post by: MaryNorth93 on September 01, 2009, 04:24AM
I also noticed that Hayley's lines were skipped in Beyond the Sea & The Sky & the Dawn & The Sun on TGJ (a friend of mine ordered the cd recently) I will not be concerned about it.. but still it's quite strange. Skipping her lines is like you want to say she has never been part of the group.
while she brought many people to CW?


Title: Re: "Live From Slane Castle" -- NOT!
Post by: lovelycherylwinner on September 01, 2009, 11:09AM
Here are three versions of Spanish lady from youtube. One from Raido City Music hall. The second is from the Martha Stewart show. And the third from Live with Regis and Kelly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_CEpwWBkuk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbEnCScQnLE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvsbInFb3RI&feature=related

In the first version I like how Mairead dances and whipps her bow around to get the crowd into the song.

Steven M.


Title: Re: "Live From Slane Castle" -- NOT!
Post by: May is Bubbly =) on September 01, 2009, 11:26AM
I was wondering that too...but its kinda weird..its the originals just Hayley voiced over


Title: Re: "Live From Slane Castle" -- NOT!
Post by: Trouble on September 01, 2009, 11:31AM
I also noticed that Hayley's lines were skipped in Beyond the Sea & The Sky & the Dawn & The Sun on TGJ (a friend of mine ordered the cd recently) I will not be concerned about it.. but still it's quite strange. Skipping her lines is like you want to say she has never been part of the group.
while she brought many people to CW?

They weren't skipped. Chloe sings her lines. 


Title: Re: "Live From Slane Castle" -- NOT!
Post by: MaryNorth93 on September 01, 2009, 11:49AM
I also noticed that Hayley's lines were skipped in Beyond the Sea & The Sky & the Dawn & The Sun on TGJ (a friend of mine ordered the cd recently) I will not be concerned about it.. but still it's quite strange. Skipping her lines is like you want to say she has never been part of the group.
while she brought many people to CW?

They weren't skipped. Chloe sings her lines. 

Well, I mean Hayley's voice is skipped, replaced bij Chloë.. whatever  :)


Title: Re: "Live From Slane Castle" -- NOT!
Post by: Trouble on September 01, 2009, 11:50AM
Ahh ok  :D


Title: Re: "Live From Slane Castle" -- NOT!
Post by: Shywolf(Craig) on September 02, 2009, 11:05AM
I looked for the "Live From Slane Castle " on several sites and none list them just ANJ. I do have different Japanese releases of ANJ that have the live songs from Slane not released on the US pressing. Also TGJ &  CW Japanese pressings that has song(s) not on the US release too.


Title: Re: "Live From Slane Castle" -- NOT!
Post by: May is Bubbly =) on September 04, 2009, 10:16PM
I looked for the "Live From Slane Castle " on several sites and none list them just ANJ. I do have different Japanese releases of ANJ that have the live songs from Slane not released on the US pressing. Also TGJ &  CW Japanese pressings that has song(s) not on the US release too.

look for it on iTunes..they definitely have it..I got it from them.


Title: Re: "Live From Slane Castle" -- NOT!
Post by: Shywolf(Craig) on September 08, 2009, 12:47PM
I looked for the "Live From Slane Castle " on several sites and none list them just ANJ. I do have different Japanese releases of ANJ that have the live songs from Slane not released on the US pressing. Also TGJ &  CW Japanese pressings that has song(s) not on the US release too.

look for it on iTunes..they definitely have it..I got it from them.

KOCE is selling it as A  New Journey, Live from Slane Castle. On cd during the pledge break. Yet not listed on their site.