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« Reply #135 on: January 28, 2018, 11:39AM » |
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Does anyone else notice the songs originally from the VOA cd sound the same on Homecoming? I know they don't lip sync, so they must have put the vocals from the studio recording over the live one's. Why do they do that?
It's been like this for years, we still don't know why XD I suppose it's to offer the best experience to the listener in case of little (and human) mistakes during the live performances. All of the DVDs have a couple of songs which you can tell are 'really' live (The Blessing on ANJ DVD, for instance, is clearly different from the CD) and for the rest we hear the studio version. After listening to the CD myself, I have to say I don't think this was something we really needed. I think that instead of "Homecoming" it would have made more sense to make a "Voices of Angels" DVD without releasing a 'live' album which basically is VOA with a couple of new tracks, a couple of differences in the arrangements and the clapping and cheering sounds of the audience. And the two songs with Anabel, which are OK but not much to my taste. I would have preferred, maybe, to have an EP with the studio versions of the new tracks. I think CW needs to stop re-inventing the material they perform and focusing on the production of new or unreleased songs. Destiny was a breath of fresh air in that sense (even though it also had old songs re-arranged) and Believe and Songs From The Heart were also full of new material for the fans. That is why I didn't like Emerald, because it was all known stuff and so is Homecoming (with a few exceptions). Voices of Angels also had old material but at least all the arrangements were brand new. As I said, IMHO CW needs to focus on new material. There's room for the fan-favourites on tour, I mean, the bloody Danny Boy and You Raise me Up and Orinoco Flow have been on tour for the last twelve years  And they've been recorded and/or released so many times by now. Dulaman has been recorded five times XD I really think the CDs should be made for new songs, that way each CD would correspond to a DVD with new material AND old favourites. Just sayin'  (by the way, my rant is not about the girls, they always do an amazing job when it comes to their craft. It's just about the choice of the material, which I think could become boring especially for them, at a certain point) |
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« Reply #136 on: January 28, 2018, 12:30PM » |
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I don't think they get the same return they used to, on tours or even on new albums. They may need the revenue from the higher frequency of albums (retreads though some of them are). I do agree that I would prefer they do a lot more new material. There's a vast amount of great Irish traditional and contemporary songs they haven't done yet. I wonder if part of the reason they retread material a lot more these days is because they're afraid if they change too much from what the Classic Celtic Woman fan base is used to (in personnel, songs, and they way they are arranged), people might lose interest. Personally, I think it's quite the opposite and fans would love to hear new stuff. Another thing we have to keep in mind is that not everyone got Voices of Angels and 'new' releases have better sales rates than old albums. While I like the idea of an EP, a full-length album sells better, especially for the fans that didn't get the Voices of Angels album. A lot of groups do a lot of retreads. Yanni is an example that comes to mind, who released practically nothing but the exact same recordings over and over again on one compilation album after another for 14 consecutive years.  I don't think I would ever get bored of Celtic Woman. I love them too much. <3 I do think the next album has to be something different or it could be trouble. Re: why they sometimes overlay studio tracks over the live ones... Celtic Woman is one of the very few groups that I know of that often sound as good (if not better) live as in the studio. But they're not perfect, even though there are large portions of the fan base that expect them to be. A New Journey and Songs from the Heart were soooooooooooo good that fans just grew to expect perfection every time. If they put out a pure live album, I'm sure people would start busting out the old "it's not the same" and "the old singers were better" complaints and turn other fans off of the group. It's sad to say it, but the fan base that's stuck in the group's golden days, while it's sustaining the group, may also be what's holding this current group back now. Maybe that's just me. What are your thoughts? |
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« Reply #137 on: January 28, 2018, 01:15PM » |
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For me here is how I see it:
As much as I'm so happy for Voices Of Angel's, having the same even though it's live doesn't sound live still. I notice what I love that makes the songs a bit new is the tour instrumentals you can tell on the trailer for Homecoming at the shot of Eabha during Westering Home a powerful pan or Asian boing to the climax the last chorus!
For the original golden group had they had a live tour album say Isle Of Hope CD & or DVD it would nock the socks off everyone knowing the girls were so perfect even better live at times which is why I love spend more time listening to tour YouTube clips than the cds for powerness!
Here's what should been better for my opinion.
Isle Of Hope Tour LIVE!
Song's From The Heart
Believe
Home For Christmas 2013
10th Anniversary Tour X
Destiny
Voice's Of Angel's- A Homecoming Back to Ireland Live
A Tenth Anniversary X album instead of Emerald would be more special more new, more iconic, more memorable. The fan favorites sung by Meav, Lynn, Alex be different because instead it would release Lynn's Dulaman that was as important who cares if they say she sounds like Meav. The Voice - Alex, Amazing Grace- Meav 1st Time! Susan- Isle Of Hope or Caledonia piano.
Using Susan do Lisa Kelly's same version of The Voice and Caledonia makes Emerald boring or a loss sign of Lisa K. Alex would be different because its an anniversary and Alex trademarked to the song is fairer next in line before Susan.
I still crave Alex Dulaman solo even though it kind of came true for Caranua now.. Lynn's Scarborough Fair was Epic! Hearing or watching Tar, Nil Sen La, Amazing Grace, Orinoco Flow with Meav, Lynn, Alex and with the current lineup Susan and Mairead C was so interesting and yet re-freshing!! Yes Lisa L was amazing on Emerald, its the only way to hear Lisa, Chloe and Susan together but the arrangements are blah same as old albums. Having former members who've never sung some songs or with pairing their voices with other CW girls is refreshingly genius to cw success forward.
Emerald is a skip for me whereas Voices Of Angels at least is not.
Celtic Thunder is going on releasing everything, they have an X Anniversary tour release that CW neglected.
Destiny is great for the next chapter of CW
If Decade or X Tenth Anniversary didn't happen because of Emerald then that sucks and if they didn't do it because of Chloe or Lisa K not there no excuse to not.*
The major difference now with Homecoming & Voice's Of Angels with Song's from The Heart & Isle of Hope is there was no CD for Isle Of Hope plus SFTH became the Album for Isle of Hope on the new tracks. Emerald looks like what Homecoming is now except Emerald is better because it was the first fan favorite combo other than the Decade special? Homecoming comes to a shock because Voices Of Angels came just before.Sfth carried Isle Of Hope. I thought Homecoming could been a DVD only with the CD be the new songs with Parting Glass, Westering Home, Orinoco Flow and Water Under The Bridge not on VOA!
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« Reply #138 on: January 28, 2018, 03:16PM » |
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I definitely agree there should have been a 10th Anniversary DVD and an album with the 10th Anniversary Tour singers. That would have been epic! I was a little surprised when they announced they were releasing a live CD along with the Homecoming DVD given there was so much overlap with the Voices of Angels CD. I suspect it might have been a last-minute decision. "Hey these live tracks sound really good and not everyone plays DVDs. Maybe the people that won't get the DVD would still appreciate a way to hear the tracks. Plus, we could make some more money so we can keep the tours going." I don't think the Homecoming album will do nearly as well as Voices of Angels because there's so much overlap. But would it be better to not release an accompanying album at all? For people in the fan base that are getting tired of the retreads, maybe. But from a financial standpoint? It probably makes sense to release every album they can. But that said, I think with Emerald, Decade, Voices of Angels, The Best of Christmas, and Homecoming all being essentially re-releases or re-recordings, to do another retread next time would be dangerous. They could to do a sequel to Destiny perhaps, with all new songs. They could call it "Destiny's Child." |
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« Reply #139 on: January 29, 2018, 09:02AM » |
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This is basically the same as Emerald except better for a DVD with the New version performances! Emerald was great but an Anniversary Special would of increased CW level. It's still great for an overview of CW past four specials in 1 cd, 1 DVD and we see Chloe the Star here as an original whereas Believe felt more Lisa K as being her last and it being featured in Atlanta!
Emerald took the part of Anniversary X and chances of a Greatest Journey Part II.
I do love the one name titled themes. My idea for the next one be this:
Believe 2011
Destiny 2016
Dream 2018
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« Reply #140 on: February 05, 2018, 11:09AM » |
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Do We Need To Start A New Board For Homecoming Tour And DVD/CD? Also Move All Homecoming Post To That Board. I'm Just OCD. Ha Ha!! |
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« Reply #141 on: February 05, 2018, 01:48PM » |
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I think CW needs to stop re-inventing the material they perform and focusing on the production of new or unreleased songs. Destiny was a breath of fresh air in that sense (even though it also had old songs re-arranged) and Believe and Songs From The Heart were also full of new material for the fans. That is why I didn't like Emerald, because it was all known stuff and so is Homecoming (with a few exceptions). Voices of Angels also had old material but at least all the arrangements were brand new. As I said, IMHO CW needs to focus on new material. There's room for the fan-favourites on tour, I mean, the bloody Danny Boy and You Raise me Up and Orinoco Flow have been on tour for the last twelve years And they've been recorded and/or released so many times by now. Dulaman has been recorded five times XD I really think the CDs should be made for new songs, that way each CD would correspond to a DVD with new material AND old favourites. AMEN TO THAT! |
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« Reply #142 on: February 05, 2018, 05:39PM » |
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Do We Need To Start A New Board For Homecoming Tour And DVD/CD? Also Move All Homecoming Post To That Board. I'm Just OCD. Ha Ha!! I completely agree. That's long overdue. If I had admin privileges, I would make it so. |
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« Reply #143 on: February 14, 2018, 12:10PM » |
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For those of you who ordered the Homecoming DVD, where did most of you get your copy by from (?)
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« Reply #144 on: February 14, 2018, 01:48PM » |
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For those of you who ordered the Homecoming DVD, where did most of you get your copy by from (?)
Amazon.co.uk (although it was a third party who offered it (Mmglobal3, to be precise). Received it today, watched it almost right away, and was, as usual, blown away. There is a lot that pleased me. For example, the final flourish Tara gave on "For the Love of a Princess". James Horner would have been proud. |
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« Reply #145 on: February 14, 2018, 02:08PM » |
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For those of you who ordered the Homecoming DVD, where did most of you get your copy by from (?)
Amazon.co.uk (although it was a third party who offered it (Mmglobal3, to be precise). Received it today, watched it almost right away, and was, as usual, blown away. There is a lot that pleased me. For example, the final flourish Tara gave on "For the Love of a Princess". James Horner would have been proud. That finishing flourish by Tara is one of my all-time favourite Celtic Woman moments. |
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« Reply #146 on: February 14, 2018, 10:39PM » |
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Do We Need To Start A New Board For Homecoming Tour And DVD/CD? Also Move All Homecoming Post To That Board. I'm Just OCD. Ha Ha!! I completely agree. That's long overdue. If I had admin privileges, I would make it so. What's taking so long to create one? There's pics of album cover all over the internet to have a pic for the board. |
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« Reply #147 on: February 23, 2018, 05:09PM » |
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Looking to order from CW.com. Is it guarantee I will receive had I imagine I ordered a calender of VOA with Destiny and it didn't happen or else my Wi-Fi signal went out.
Is the bundle Homecoming worth it I think yeah for a $20 calendar originally +$17+17=$50!
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« Reply #148 on: March 06, 2018, 11:15AM » |
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Has anyone with the target exclusive heard Time To Say Goodbye and Amazing Grace. Is it worth it meaning if you have the Voice's of Angel's Album. How worth it should you buy into it for just those two tracks! please  |
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« Reply #149 on: March 06, 2018, 11:14PM » |
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Has anyone with the target exclusive heard Time To Say Goodbye and Amazing Grace. Is it worth it meaning if you have the Voice's of Angel's Album. How worth it should you buy into it for just those two tracks! please Wish I could tell you. I ordered mine's still getting delivered. I can't have them shipped directly to Canada, so someone is holding my copy for me until I got see Chloë in a couple of weeks. I can pick it up then.  |
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