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Title: NEW Christmas CD
Post by: Jim M. on October 17, 2017, 01:15PM
There is a listing on Ebay for a CW cd "The Best of Christmas" with 20 songs from the current and former members of the group.  

The seller is in Belfast and shows a release date of November 24th.  I don't know if that date is for the UK, Europe, and/or North America.  Ebay item number is 253212993287.


Title: Re: NEW Christmas CD
Post by: rfcw on October 17, 2017, 01:52PM
Current (&) Former Member's (would) normally have to include
Lynn Hilary & Alex Sharpe but  :'( there isn't material recorded other than... :-\..


Title: Re: NEW Christmas CD
Post by: Excalibur on October 18, 2017, 09:58AM
According to the tracklist, number 20 should be:

20. Auld Lang Syne Lisa Lambe, Chloe, Meav

This is either a mistake or a sign that this is a false release. I suppose we will find out in a couple of months :D


Title: Re: NEW Christmas CD
Post by: Jim M. on October 18, 2017, 12:12PM
The Ebay listing has been removed "by the seller because the item is no longer available".

The listing said there were 10 available -- maybe they were all sold.  ??


Title: Re: NEW Christmas CD
Post by: CWazyTom on October 18, 2017, 04:42PM
I'm pretty sure it's a bootleg release.

Even ordering actual albums from Ebay or Amazon marketplace is hit and miss.

Examples:
- One of Orla's CD came with all the right labels and CD inserts, but the actual tracks on the CD were from "A Very She & Him Christmas" ... yeah I don't think the label made that mistake...
- "An Irish Journey" shipped with all the right labels and CD inserts, but the actual tracks on the CD were from "A New Journey"

I think it's extremely unlikely those were as "official" copies as they claimed to be.

Considering that CD you mentioned was not promoted by Celtic Woman and none of us knew of any such CD, I think someone just put a few of their recordings together on a CD and tried to sell it.

It's possible it was some regionally and legitimately licensed variant but...it sounds suspicious.


Title: Re: NEW Christmas CD
Post by: Jim M. on October 20, 2017, 05:27PM
There is another "new" CW Christmas cd on Ebay now -- ICON Christmas -- 11 tracks with no other info about it.  Maybe another bootleg cd? ???


Title: Re: NEW Christmas CD
Post by: Danny on October 21, 2017, 01:39AM
Icon Christmas was released in November 2015. I own a copy, it‘s no bootleg, it‘s part of a series of CDs called Icon. It‘s also available on iTunes, just called Christmas


Title: Re: NEW Christmas CD
Post by: Jim M. on October 21, 2017, 08:48AM
Icon Christmas was released in November 2015. I own a copy, it‘s no bootleg, it‘s part of a series of CDs called Icon. It‘s also available on iTunes, just called Christmas
Thank you for the info. :)


Title: Re: NEW Christmas CD
Post by: Danny on October 28, 2017, 12:25AM
The Best of Christmas seems to be official!

https://www.celticcollections.com/shop/celtic-woman-the-best-of-christmas-pre-order/?utm_source=Celtic+Collections+Subscriber+List&utm_campaign=c07b839cef-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2017_10_27&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_ff465a5af8-c07b839cef-296064489&mc_cid=c07b839cef&mc_eid=8ad732c074


Title: Re: NEW Christmas CD
Post by: CWazyTom on October 28, 2017, 01:46PM
Yeah, it turned out to be legit!

I guess some vendors started to offer it before CW actually announced it.


Title: Re: NEW Christmas CD
Post by: Tiffany Gray on October 28, 2017, 05:57PM
The Best of Christmas seems to be official!

https://www.celticcollections.com/shop/celtic-woman-the-best-of-christmas-pre-order/?utm_source=Celtic+Collections+Subscriber+List&utm_campaign=c07b839cef-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2017_10_27&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_ff465a5af8-c07b839cef-296064489&mc_cid=c07b839cef&mc_eid=8ad732c074

Unless the tracks are re-recorded, I won't be getting this album, because I already have all these songs. I think it would be awesome if they made an all new Christmas album. I would love that, or even if these were re-recorded with the current girls, that would be really cool. But I think it's just a compilation of their already recorded Christmas songs.


Title: Re: NEW Christmas CD
Post by: mattycakes on October 28, 2017, 09:23PM
The Best of Christmas seems to be official!

https://www.celticcollections.com/shop/celtic-woman-the-best-of-christmas-pre-order/?utm_source=Celtic+Collections+Subscriber+List&utm_campaign=c07b839cef-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2017_10_27&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_ff465a5af8-c07b839cef-296064489&mc_cid=c07b839cef&mc_eid=8ad732c074

Unless the tracks are re-recorded, I won't be getting this album, because I already have all these songs. I think it would be awesome if they made an all new Christmas album. I would love that, or even if these were re-recorded with the current girls, that would be really cool. But I think it's just a compilation of their already recorded Christmas songs.
Agreed Tiffany. Have we even heard anything about a Christmas Tour? Because, seeing as they're no longer using David Downes' arrangements, they need to do a new Christmas album to get some music to perform. Last year's Christmas Tour was basically a little intro for VOA.


Title: Re: NEW Christmas CD
Post by: CWazyTom on January 25, 2018, 07:26PM
Icon Christmas was released in November 2015. I own a copy, it‘s no bootleg, it‘s part of a series of CDs called Icon. It‘s also available on iTunes, just called Christmas

Here's some info on Icon:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icon_(album_series)

I was always a bit confused by this compilation album. It's a legitimate album, but is it considered part of the official Celtic Woman discography? Or is it separate from the main discography and just uses the Celtic Woman branding / tracks?

The distinction becomes relevant when presenting facts about the group (ie. statements like "this is the group's 18th album and 7th Christmas-themed album"). If it's considered an official part of their discography, it changes the official counts for all the group's subsequent albums (including all subsequent Christmas-themed albums) and inconsistent information is one of the things that really irritates the folks at Wikipedia.

The album IS listed on the Celtic Woman site as part of their discography:

https://www.celticwoman.com/the-celtic-woman-story/

CELTIC WOMAN DISCOGRAPHY:

CDs:                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

Celtic Woman, 2005
A Christmas Celebration, 2006
A New Journey, 2007
The Greatest Journey, 2008
Songs from the Heart, 2010
Lullaby, 2011
Believe, 2011
Home for Christmas, 2012
Emerald: Musical Gems, 2014
Christmas, 2015
Destiny, 2016
Voices of Angels, 2016
The Best Of Christmas, 2017
Homecoming, 2018
 

DVDs:

Celtic Woman, 2005
A Christmas Celebration, 2006
A New Journey: Live at Slane Castle, 2007
The Greatest Journey, 2008
Songs from the Heart: Powerscourt House and Gardens, 2010
Believe, 2011
Home for Christmas: Live from Dublin, 2013
Emerald: Musical Gems Live In Concert, 2014
Destiny: Live in Concert, 2016
Homecoming, 2018


... But just looking at that list raises some other questions. Was the German version of the Believe album not an "official" CD in their discography? What about Silent Night? Or O Christmas Tree? A Celtic Family Christmas? Celtic Christmas? Decade? I mean there's a lot of stuff missing from that list that I would personally consider "official."

To compound the confusion, the website also states:

Celtic Woman has sold more than eight million CDs and DVDs, making it the only all-female act to achieve multi-platinum success in the classical crossover and world music genres during the past decade.  Named Billboard's #1 World Music Artist of the Year six times, each of its 11 CDs has debuted at #1 on Billboard's World Album chart.

11? Lol! There are 14 in their list on the site. Where are they getting these numbers?  ;D

I'm going to take a look at some of the album counts that have been documented after that album was released to see if there's a general consensus.

I'm also going to look through the discography for a few of the other artists / groups that have Icon series albums and see if they are included in those official discographies.